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Police seek claimant of 20 rai of encroached land on island off Phuket

PHUKET: Police are looking for a person responsible for paying local land tax on what is said to be encroached land on Koh Maphrao. The land, covering 20 rai, now has 14 units on it making up part of a resort, police said yesterday (Sept 14).

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By The Phuket News

Thursday 15 September 2016, 11:18AM


Deputy Chief of the Natural Resource and Environmental Police (NE) Col Bancha Panpradab together with Maj Kitwarut Phutnuan, officers from the Forestry Department, Military Circle 41, Phuket Provincial Police, Tourist Police, a Koh Kaew village headman and local officials inspected the buildings on Koh Maphrao in Koh Kaew yesterday after officials received complaints that investor/s had bought the land without official land documents from local residents and built a resort.

Col Bancha explained: “We came to inspect the area because people had sent complaints to our office reporting that investors had bought a lot of land in Moo Baan Koh Maphrao without a land titles and no one ever visits the area to investigate.

“NE Police Commander Maj Gen Suthin Sabpwong and an expert from the Justice Court office who specialises in aerial photography, Mr Witoon Chalayonnawin, surveyed the area first by helicopter and confirmed there are structures in a hilly area surrounded by forest. Our patrol officers also discovered several resorts built to accommodate tourists when they visited the island,” he said.

Col Bancha pointed out,“When we arrived today we were greeted by Mr Adam from Switzerland who claimed he is caretaker of the resort. He showed us several documents, but they were mostly local land tax documents, not land titles.

“After carrying out a survey we discovered that the land, about 20 rai, is already marked with 18 pins which indicates the area is in the progress of requesting a permit. If the land is legally obtained it would be worth no more than B5 million per rai. There are already 14 villas on the land, and some units already have foreign occupants,” he said.

“We will not file any complaint against Mr Adam as he claims that to only take care of the place and is not the owner, but we will file encroachment and illegal structure charges against the person whose name is on the local tax documents that Mr Adam provided,” he added.

 

 

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Joe12 | 17 September 2016 - 12:11:50

Christy...how on earth can the rendition of facts be said to be censoring opinion? Hell, I wouldn't even consider kurt's comments to be opinion. It shows the leniency of Thai authorities of previous instances over lapses prior to his stance of activism, which then pushed them over the edge and so threw him out of the country. 

Joe12 | 17 September 2016 - 11:40:16

Rorii/Kurt... "Thai" - easy one, just refer to Naturalisation and Citizen Laws.

"Own land" - One owns land, when the law of the land in which one resides and force at the time, says so. Just refer to relevant land laws. (eg. Land Code Promulgating Act, B.E. 2497 (1954). We have come a long way since the days of the neanderthal.

Gotta love this one though from Kurt, "...

Asterix | 17 September 2016 - 10:23:13

@ Kurt

To close the discussion, here are some famous cases about libel suits in Thailand:

- Alan Morison and Chutima Sidasathian working for Phuketwan.com who were sued by the Thai Navy and faced up to seven years in jail for reproducing a Reuters paragraph that was part of a series on the stateless Rohingya boatpeople.

- A group of human rights defenders in Northeast Thailand has been fo...

swerv | 17 September 2016 - 10:10:18

Kurt: I am not Thai, whatever gave you that idea?

Kurt | 17 September 2016 - 07:44:31

Well Asterix, comments in PN are quite moderate and friendly compared what you can read in Bangkok Post.

And if readers comment can contribute in the work of the by you called secret police (Santiban?) to catch criminals on Phuket, why not? That is fine with me.
Are you sure you were allowed to write about a secret thai police organization with the name 'Santiban'?
Now it is less secr...

Kurt | 16 September 2016 - 19:29:28

Swerv: If the many generations of sea gipsies at Rawai are not thai, are you than sure you are thai? Based on what?

Don't exclude your country mates, don't put them in a different box, based on nothing. Not fair.
It shows just a expression of non existing superiority.

And there is no thai superiority. Name me anything.
To tickle you, Singapore has a much more interracial/religious ...

Christy Sweet | 16 September 2016 - 19:21:26

  Please As,terix stop spreading rumours. At the link below it's explained Mr Blazy had three overstays. Sadly, your objective appears to be all about censoring opinion.  

http://phuketwan.com/tourism/phuket-expat-joe-blazy-arrested-visa-officials-likely-called-21223/

Kurt | 16 September 2016 - 18:58:30

A short while ago someone wrote here that there is not such thing as just being 'thai'.
Thailand is a togetherness of many different tribes and local cultures.
Thai have no affinity with the place were they stay/work. See the majority of thai working on Phuket, not registered  on Phuket, roots remain in village where they come from, and they go back again. Very different from other count...

Kurt | 16 September 2016 - 18:01:58

Thank you Asterix:  Suggest you read here the article about what the Prime Minister said today about the taxi mafia and Thai Phuket officials. 
I agree with the Prime Minister 100%, for the sake of the normal thai people who not have 'power/money' to change things for the better.

I refuse to see the situation of the sea gipsies as 'politics', they are human beings, living in a ...

Rorii | 16 September 2016 - 17:09:27

swerv... just what makes someone "Thai?" The Mokan, sea gypsies, have a history, along the Andaman Sea, including the Thai coast, longer than the NE and NW provinces, which, infact going back approx. 200 years, Isaan was not part of Thailand/Siam. Go and look at the map on this link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Isan
So, I suggest the Mokan are more Thai than many others.

Christy Sweet | 16 September 2016 - 17:09:24

Asterix, That is simply scare mongering. I'd be the first one on a plane  if what you have stated is true. Heck, compared to me, Kurt's an absolute Thai-o-phile in the same vein as Joe 12.  I've been telling it like it is about LieLand for about 9 years now and I'm still here. Sure I'm on my 12th or so user name at Thai Visa but so what? Practically a badge of honor.

Rorii | 16 September 2016 - 16:49:18

Foot, perhaps you can tell us just when do people "own" land, considering how far back in history did people start to "legally" own land. Back in time people occupied land, therefore gained "ownership," cavemen never "owned" land, but did occupy it, eventually it became their territory, their land, no payment, no title deeds etc.

Asterix | 16 September 2016 - 15:58:24

@ Kurt
Remember what at happened at Joe Blazy, the Americian, when he was posting many negative comments about Thailand and Thai people on forums and Facebook pages (https://www.facebook.com/joe.diver.562)... He got arrested for a petty offence (Overstay visa for few days...if I remember), then deported and banned to re-entree Thailand and Immigration did not care he was helping the Tourist Polic...

swerv | 16 September 2016 - 13:25:26

Kurt: Foot was not being complimentary, just voicing what others think about your posts...absurd.
Is it absolutely necessary to write a book each time, an unintelligible one at that?
By the way the sea gypsies are not Thai.

Kurt | 16 September 2016 - 10:13:27

The rights of the Rawai Sea Gypsies who live many generations at their land, were also the bones of their ancestors ( many generations)are buried hardly can be called .."Squatters rights"..

It is a pity that the thai Government ( in service to the people) all this generations-time not took initiative to legalize the historical land status of the Sea Gypsies.

Because of that short s...

Kurt | 15 September 2016 - 21:36:03

Simple question: Are there electricity- and water meters at the houses of that resort?
Than the resort must be legal, right?

Kurt | 15 September 2016 - 19:23:46

Foot, thank you for compliments.  :)

If you did follow the Rawai Sea Gips history :
Generations Sea Gipsies were already living at their Rawai location far before Thailand did set up chanote and other legal land ownership technicalities.
There were that time no legal obtaining procedures.
Many years they were treated/ignored as not existing.
'Over their head' now is a try going on t...

Foot | 15 September 2016 - 17:34:28

Kurt ... I have to admit, your posts bring a high level of amusement and absurdity to the site.
You're right that the encroachment should have been revealed when the taxes were paid.
But, you then become absurd when you contend the Sea Gypsies should have a right to the land they never legally obtained just because the were there a long time.
Which is it Kurt - squatters rights or legal own...

Asterix | 15 September 2016 - 15:32:40

@ Kurt
PM Prayut is going to sign S44 (Story @ http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1086032/prayut-mulls-sor-khor-1-deed-repeal) to claim back ownerships of all Sor Kor land titles and in Phuket a lot of Thais and foreigners alike will have a painful reality to face.

PM Prayut is looking to confiscate 500,000 rai of forest this and next year to reclaim 26 million rai of forest within 10 yea...

Kurt | 15 September 2016 - 14:27:28

How on earth can someone paying landtax on what is said to be
encroached land?
What is still very wrong going on in Thailand?

Release the young soft drugs users from thai prisons and put the corrupt thai officials in their place.
Not much decent space, but enough for them.

Kurt | 15 September 2016 - 14:18:33

Asterix: You are very right.
The same counts for the Rawai Sea Gipsies, who live very long time on their land, planted trees, have the bones of their ancestors buried there.
Areal photo evidence support their claim.
Still influential thai people with money tries with all means to drive them out.
Very sad thai handling. Financial thai power over thai justice.

Asterix | 15 September 2016 - 12:06:25

ENCROACHING ON PUBLIC LAND IN PHUKET

The best way would be to use S44 (Story @ http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1086032/prayut-mulls-sor-khor-1-deed-repeal) and investigate with the help of the Army, all land titles under the supervision and signed by the former Phuket Land Office registrar Thawatchai Anukul, in order to revoke manu militari all illegal deeds and demolish all illegal bui...

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