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Phuket traffic fines are not enough, says poll

PHUKET: A huge majority of respondents to an online poll by The Phuket News have voted that the traffic fines currently levied against willfully reckless and often lethal drivers are not enough to prevent further carnage on Phuket’s roads.

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Monday 8 May 2017, 02:13PM


The current traffic fines levied against drivers are not enough to deter dangerous drivers, said the Phuket poll. Photo: The Phuket News / file
The current traffic fines levied against drivers are not enough to deter dangerous drivers, said the Phuket poll. Photo: The Phuket News / file

The poll, which closed at midnight last night (end of May 7), asked, “Do the current penalties deter people from breaking the traffic laws?”

Only 6% voted, “Yes, the current penalties are enough; there is no need to change anything.”

A further 24% voted, “Yes, the current penalties are enough, but enforcement is lacking.”

However, the remaining 70% of respondents called out the current system of issuing for failing to invoke any change in driver’s behaviour.

The lion’s share of votes called for heavier penalties, with 43% of respondents voting, “No, the current penalties do not deter traffic offenders and must be made harsher, for example fines should be increased.”

A further 27% or respondents voted, “No, the current penalties, which are mostly fines, do not work and officials must also use alternative punishments such as community service.”

Those votes came in recognition that even officials in Bangkok have realised that the current range of penalties for traffic violations are not enough to correct people’s behaviour. On Songkran last year they started forcing some offenders to perform community service by helping out at morgues and came back to this practice in 2017. (See story here.)

The poll was launched after Phuket Governor Norraphat Plodthong recounted Phuket’s death and injury toll during the Songkran “Seven Days of Danger” road-safety campaign, held April 11-17 this year.

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The toll for the one week stood at four dead and 70 people injured in 67 accidents.

Gov Norraphat, who began his term as Governor of Phuket only on April 10, vowed to “bring all the road accident statistics and other relevant information to discuss with the Phuket Provincial Committee to come up with ways to solve this problem and create a campaign that will make driving safer in Phuket.” (See story here.)

That promise came on the back of police announcing how many people were fined for traffic violations during the seven days. Notably, the greatest offenders were 5,628 people fined for not wearing helmets; and 3,075 fined for driving without a licence. (See story here.)

To see the full poll results, click here.

If your preferred response was not available, feel free to add it in the comments below.

To see the results of our previous poll, asking “Should tour guides or tourists be charged for coral damage?”, click here.


If you have a suggestion for a poll, email execeditor@classactmedia.co.th with “Poll Suggestion” in the Subject line.

 

 

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Jor12 | 12 May 2017 - 20:12:31

my comments have certainly been justified and the clowns just reinforced what I said. 

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Kurt | 12 May 2017 - 18:58:08

malczx7r: How right you can be!
Indeed, ignore them, Cordon Sanitaire!
I already long time put a Cordon Sanitaire on a few people here who never write their own comment but find their 'lust' in reacting in a insulting way and call people names. 
Sometimes very insulting, some times even without being able to see matters through a right scope.
Different opinions, yes I respect.
But the low class personal insults, no. Why should we?

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malczx7r | 12 May 2017 - 09:32:10

Kurt

Well said! And for all those people who usually complain about what you write, whilst sometimes it can be little incomprehensible, I understand English is not your native language but can understand 90% of what you mean AND you don't insult other users unlike some people we see on here! 

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Kurt | 11 May 2017 - 15:41:16

Christy Sweet: Very well expressed!
I was laughing reading Joe12 reaction: ..."who have no knowledge of thai customs, the laws, and policing"....
Actually we do know about all these.
It is the de-railing of all these what we comment on. Right?

We comment on thai matters what are not according the thai customs.
We comment on the lack of thai law enforcement.
We comment on thai policies. What is policy today is sudden not a policy tomorrow, even up to a village chief.

Good example is todays article in PN about Chinese tourist arriving on Chalong Pier after a sea trip with stolen corals. They were just asked to dump it at the end of Chalong Pier, were it actually will not have a life at all, of course, near that oil bunker station.
A action without any thinking or 'contents'

This happening is a contrast with the the Russian lady , feeding fishes, and got 2 night chalong station jail, and than a 100,000 thb bail!
And the case of the Chinese lady, 2 parrot fishes, 100,000 thb fine.

But yesterday nothing of that. So...? What policy is that joe12 talking about?
Thai policies change like the wind change direction. Day after day.
That is what we comment about.
It can help Thailand to develop, As some reactionairs here always defend wrong doings, not contribute themelve positively in lifting Thailand from her 3rd world country position. In contrary.

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malczx7r | 11 May 2017 - 11:54:19

Christy, exactly, i'm pretty sure if you asked Thais to describe their culture it wouldn't be "driving crazy, endangering lives and sometimes killing people with reckless driving!
And just to add, Policing is not a culture it's a job, which if we could get translated I bet it does't say "just enforce some laws when you feel like it"!
Jor 12 just seems to revel in complaining about us, it's obvious he doesn't care about the lost lives and distraught families left behind after senseless deaths.  The best way to deal with people like him is just to ignore their comments. I for one will never reply to a comment he makes again, if we all ignore him one day he'll give up and move on!

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Christy Sweet | 11 May 2017 - 08:26:50

Jor 12, Despite your constant and largely unsuccessful attempts to discredit opinions, I think all the commentators on this site are well aware of Thai customs- one of which  is to hassle foreigners for what Thais do routinely and policing, which is sorely lacking.
 As far as I know it is not illegal ( yet ) to voice an opinion in a forum set up to voice opinions. 
I submit you are angry so many  foreigners are aware, and aghast at what we view as an inculcated, cultural inability to care about others. Jut because we  complain about a negative aspect doesn't mean we can not appreciate the positive. 
Maybe, just maybe if you are really bothered by the posts here, you could simply not read them? Or do you enjoy the banter as I, and many others do? 

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Pauly44 | 11 May 2017 - 06:54:25

Oh common Jor 12 who cares about all that when people are dying from senseless, stupid, selfish, reckless driving???? You must be kidding, policing??? Legal action, are you for real?? Thai culture has nothing to do with it and we all know any law is never enforced, punishments are no deterrent you are just making pathetic excuses once again to justify your existence, one thing is for sure it will never change and no point whining about it as they just don't get it and never will but don't try to justify this with lame excuses please just acknowledge it for what it is, pure madness.

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Jor12 | 10 May 2017 - 19:05:42

More senseless idiotic comments from the usual rabble, who have no knowledge whatsoever of Thai customs, traditions the law and Policing. I can see why no-one in their right mind takes any legal action against these fools because what they say is just laughable and unbelievable  

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Kurt | 10 May 2017 - 12:04:18

malczx7r:  You are right.
''"Trying to catch them".. as expressed made me lauch.
Just drive from Rawai to Phuket town with your dash cam on.
No 'catching', you just can't avoid recording. En mass so many dangerous doings on the road recorded in 30 minutes time that a police station would have many days work to handle/punish it.
It clearly proofs 'road mentality', and insufficient police attendance.
If the RTP implement the Singapore traffic police procedures than Thailand becomes in less than 1 month much safer.
What makes that a developing country not looks/copy what a neighbor country is doing 'on the road' so much better?

I know, some thai 'reactors' will fulminate when they read the word 'singapore'.
But they will sing another song when they get a message from police that their child was crushed to dead by a speeding cement truck or minivan ( lethal thai driver).
Due to thai thinking ..'we do it our way'..
But why not improving ..'my way'.. as it is so clear that is can be done so easy?
That is called 'positive development'.

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malczx7r | 10 May 2017 - 09:57:26

Christy, exactly they need harsh realities to face in order to change their mindset.

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